Monday, March 31, in the middle of Main Street at the South Dakota State Student Union, was a white board with the statement, “The slave-trade was morally evil. Agree? Disagree?”
Disagree? What do we mean disagree? Why is slavery–a human rights atrocity–up for debate?
Equip Campus Ministries is no stranger to prompting the student population with eye-catching, controversial debates. These debates are all a part of what they call, “sidewalk epistemologies” – epistemologies meaning the study of knowledge acquisition. On the surface, it sounds like a great idea: introducing differing opinions to wide-eye, studious young minds, giving them a chance to develop their own beliefs on real-world topics that affect today’s generation.
According to their page on Jack’s Club Hub, they express that their goal is to, “equip students to humbly proclaim, explain and defend the gospel of Jesus Christ.” With all respect, what does the SLAVE TRADE have to do with JESUS CHRIST? In my humble opinion, slavery is the last thing that should be on the debate table.
I sat down with Luke Perkins, volunteer adviser for Equip Ministries to get his perspective on things. Perkins said, “We almost didn’t do it because I thought it would be too boring—no one disagrees that the slave trade was morally evil. The point [was to discuss] why you think it’s evil. If there’s no absolute standard, can you really call anything evil? That’s the moral reasoning we were getting at.”
Trying not to make this opinion 500 more words than it needs to be, I’ll spare you the analysis just on the tone-deaf absurdity of calling the slave trade boring.
On another note, I think a discussion about morality and God is entirely different than opening a debate on whether or not people should have been enslaved.
If moral reasoning was truly their purpose, a question like, “How do you know something is morally evil?” would have been far more fitting than insisting students ‘agree’ or ‘disagree’ with the slave trade.
An additional detail I’d like to mention: on the white board was the option to check “Agree”, the slave-trade was morally evil or “Disagree”, the slave-trade was not morally evil”. There were three checks for “disagree”. To my surprise, Perkins confirmed it was the members themselves who put those marks there. “Every time we do a [sidewalk epistemology], we always put in a couple of checkmarks … it’s just standard operating procedure.”
Perkins further defended himself saying it was to “demonstrate to students that they could write on the whiteboard” and “get the conversation going.” Uh-huh, you mean the white board that explicitly said “Agree” and “Disagree” with a line down the middle? I think the student population is familiar with polls.
Additionally, if manufactured controversy was needed to “start the conversation,” it seems a lot like they just wanted to use the shock value to wrangle people into speaking to them.
The visual alone—three tallies seemingly endorsing the slave trade—was enough to alarm students who could only assume some of their peers viewed slavery as acceptable. The carelessness of Equip’s prompt and presentation lends legitimacy to racist perspectives, even if that allegedly wasn’t the group’s intention.
Perkins acknowledged as much, saying, “If we can avoid the perception that we condone racism, we want to. Maybe next time we’ll phrase it differently.” Yet for many, that admission doesn’t erase the harm already done.
Put bluntly, Equip wasn’t creating discussion. They promoted rage-bait and the fabrication of controversy. Their goal wasn’t education, but rather provocation. And when religious organizations use outrage to gain attention, they sacrifice the very morality they claim to uphold.
Equip provided a space for racist rhetoric to be expressed. It should go without saying, failing to remove any space for racism to propagate is more than a lapse in judgment. It’s deliberately neglectful and a complete disregard for the harm it causes.
I know, writing a whole article on a group of people who are simply employing their “right to free speech” sounds exactly like the “snowflakes” reddit keyboard-warriors tend to speak so much about. But hear me out: freedom of speech should not excuse casual racism. The First Amendment protects people from government suppression—it does not protect them from accountability. Therefore, when speech creates an environment where racism is encouraged, it ceases to be an issue of free speech and becomes a question of ethical responsibility.
SDSU is a PWI (predominately white institution) with an estimated 83% white population. While many students might see a “debate” on slavery as just another conversation starter, students of color passing by that whiteboard may experience it very differently. They’re already the minority, and it isn’t fair or realistic to expect them to challenge every hostile or ignorant remark—especially when they’re not sure it’s safe to do so.
I asked Dr. George Tsakiridis, a religion and philosophy professor at SDSU, for his perspective on the situation. The professor said, “you [Equip Ministries] may be creating hostility without knowing it. And I don’t know anyone’s intention, but people aren’t always going to raise that issue, especially if they don’t feel it’s a safe space to have that discussion.”
In other words, people who have never felt targeted by race-based discrimination might overlook how a “casual” debate on slavery can silence marginalized voices.
Now, the question arises: how is Equip able to get away with showcasing such harmful rhetoric?
According to Event Services, which oversee tabling in the Union, the facility can only manage scheduling and placement, not content. As long as the group follows basic registration procedures, the university itself doesn’t step in to review or limit what’s put on display.
The lack of faculty intervention explains only part of the problem.
The main issue lies with the all too-common-phrase: “If it doesn’t affect me, it’s not my problem.” I’ve found that this mindset thrives at SDSU, where the majority of students come from small, rural towns with little exposure to diverse communities. That lack of experience isn’t inherently wrong—but choosing to ignore the consequences of harmful rhetoric is. At that point, it’s not just ignorance, It’s compliance. And compliance in racism is racism.
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As I spoke with Perkins about the importance of acknowledging race and exercising care when tackling topics like slavery—especially in a predominantly white institution—he gave a small, knowing laugh each time I used the word “white”. His visceral reaction felt telling.
Finally, Perkins said, “to say that there is a race called white, race called black, I reject that, personally. I think [race] helps form the foundation of racism.” I tried for clarification afterward and asked if he was saying that race isn’t real. He confirmed and reiterated, “ I actually think and would advocate strongly that there’s one race ultimately, the human race.”
I think in that moment, it became painfully clear how Luke Perkins and Equip were able to overlook their ignorant and harmful rhetoric. Attention folks! We have found another victim of white fragility propaganda!
Let’s analyze Equip’s statement further, “The slave-trade was morally evil.” First, the use of “was” implies that slave-trade is a thing of the past – it isn’t. Nonetheless, understanding we are in the middle of the good ol’ U.S. of A, I can gather context clues to understand that these disciples are referencing the Transatlantic Slave Trade. The Transatlantic Slave Trade consisted of the kidnapping and torture of an estimated 12.5 million innocent African people (up to 40% being children) to be used for the sake of free labor in the Americas. This atrocity occurred from the 1500s up until the late 1860s (the 13th Amendment was enacted in 1865).
Did You Know? Due to an overlooked documentation issue, the last state to ratify the 13th amendment was Mississippi in 2013! Only took them 143 years.
I’m not here to give you a full history lesson. We are grown adults, I expect us to be educated on something as pivotal to history as slavery was, as I expect a college level club to understand too. Despite this, Equip has demonstrated their neglect to understand that this is a serious, and real topic that caused the death of millions. Its after effects are still impacting people today. The slave-trade is not something to exploit as a ploy to promote your god. Christian students look to Equip for guidance. The club has a responsibility.
To his credit, Perkins did acknowledge some responsibility, saying, “Maybe next time we’ll phrase it differently.” It’s a start, but when the same volunteer adviser openly dismisses race as “not real,” it’s clear there’s far more to learn. True accountability demands more than simply rephrasing a prompt, it requires recognizing the realities of systemic racism, both past and present, and understanding how these issues still harm people today.
Debates can be important. But when real suffering is reduced to a rhetorical exercise, the result is not intellectual growth—it’s harm. The massacre and abuse of millions should never be up for debate. Equip, SDSU, and every student on this campus must recognize the weight of their words and actions (or lack-thereof). We are responsible for creating an environment where racism is not entertained, but eradicated. There is no nuance.
Rick Ivy • Apr 15, 2025 at 10:52 am
“With all respect, what does the SLAVE TRADE have to do with JESUS CHRIST?” Certain interpretation of the Bible absolutely had a hand in the transatlantic slave trade, and the justification of why something so horrible wouldn’t get you in trouble with God. “The curse of Ham” in Genesis, however one interprets what Noah said nowadays, was still a talking point historically during the transatlantic slave trade. People used it to legitimize slave owners/trade to the general population. I feel like this part of history gets left out a lot when we talk about slavery. Probably because it rightfully so, makes contemporary Christians uncomfortable, and seems at total odds with what most people think Jesus would want. I do think it’s an important piece of the psychological puzzle, and piece of history that explains how people could even consider something as deplorable as “it’s morally okay to OWN black folks”. Anyway, I think this whiteboard exercise is extremely half baked in its execution. I think it’s really important to have these conversations, but I think it’s also important for them to say what they mean as well. If they meant “WHY was the slave trade morally wrong?” Then I would have to agree, that’s what it should’ve said. It’s almost like they wanted to come up with a “yes or no” poll above what the actual subject matter was, even though I’m sure that wasn’t the intention. Before I go, I’ll say I feel like I hear the sentiment of “one race, the human race” coming from a white man, usually when it’s to dodge accountability. Even if he thinks or he actually means it. Race has a lot of nuance in this country, it would be nice if history was different, but it’s largely pretty ignorant to make statements like that. Ignoring race today, also means ignoring racial injustice that is still very much going on. Especially comes off tone deaf when he’s defending making a pretty weakly constructed thought exercise that no matter how much he says he wants to cast race aside, features race as a center point in the subject matter. Seems really contradictory and makes no sense if he actually wants to have this conversation.
Shilah Smolinski • Apr 10, 2025 at 7:39 pm
It seems you went into questioning Luke’s motives by trying to get him in a “gotcha,” and to prove your own mindset and to prove yourself credible. You miss the whole point of the discussion board. Whether if it’s any type of evil, are one time hook ups morally evil, or is racism itself morally evil, they get down to the same argument of moral relativity. Is morality subjective or objective? That’s the point of the discussion board. Speaking about something more extreme gets students to talk more about their views because they see it as an obvious evil, but why?
Luke Perkins • Apr 10, 2025 at 2:30 pm
Response to “Slavery is Not Up for Moral Debate”
I enjoyed my conversation with Nadia, the author of this opinion piece in the Collegian. She was courteous, a good listener and asked some good questions. I intentionally asked her opinion on the slave-trade topic, knowing that that was likely the reason for her interest. That can be tricky as a reporter/journalist, since of course reporting isn’t quite the same thing as one’s opinion, but I specifically asked her what she thought. I’m glad to see the article is published in the opinion section, which is what it is. I’ve got a few thoughts: a few corrections, some clarifications, and of course some disagreements.
Corrections:
• “I’ll spare you the analysis just on the tone-deaf absurdity of calling the slave trade boring.” — As she quoted me directly above that, what I mean by “boring” is exactly what I said: no one disagrees that the slave trade was morally evil. This makes conversations (potentially) “boring” in that there is no disagreement, which can make discussion less engaging. If someone is going to insist the word “boring” means something equivalent to “the issue wasn’t a big deal,” then I can only encourage such a person to read in context.
• “If manufactured controversy was needed to ‘start the conversation,’ it seems a lot like they just wanted to use the shock value to wrangle people into speaking to them.” — As I told the author, this simply is not true. She’s welcome to her opinion about the inside of our hearts and heads, but this was not the goal. We’ve never tried to merely “shock” people into conversation. We have lots of conversations around lots of topics, and it’s never been an intention, nor would it be necessary to manufacture controversy.
• “Put bluntly, Equip wasn’t creating discussion.” — This assertion is false, as there actually were lots of discussions, and most of it was productive.
• “They promoted rage-bait and the fabrication of controversy. Their goal wasn’t education, but rather provocation.” — This too is false, and though I told this to her in person, she chose to assert that she knows our real motives. Again, you can hold this opinion, but a major goal of every booth engagement is discussion and education, which usually happens — often a great deal.
I’ll just point out one last correction. The opinion piece says,
• “Equip provided a space for racist rhetoric to be expressed.” — I think I understand why someone would say this. Someone might imagine that the mere option to say “disagree” might somehow encourage the person with racism in their heart to publically feel affirmed (or something along these lines). I think it takes a preset determination to see it this way. If someone expresses to me that they don’t think the slave trade was evil, far from a “safe space,” what they’ll hear from me is that the slave trade was wicked, and they need to repent of such sin.
Agreements:
Near the end she says, “True accountability…requires recognizing the realities of systemic racism.” This implies I/we don’t recognize racism. As I shared with her, I do in fact believe racism is a real, present sin. God hates racial vainglory or racial animosity. Is the idea that even talking about why slavery was evil, somehow condones it? That certainly doesn’t follow, and we don’t.
I do think the question might have been clearer to be worded something like, “Why was slavery morally evil?” The backside of the board did in fact say, “Where does morality come from?” and so obviously we’re engaging on an epistemological level, challenging people to think deeper about these things.
I suspect a big brow-furrowing complaint will come from the fact that our standard operating procedure is to put a couple of tally marks on each side of whatever topic we’re talking about. You can dislike this, think it’s dumb, etc., but the fact is that that is what we always do. It wasn’t “rage baiting,” and on multiple occasions we’ve mentioned it to people when they ask about the “score.” Whatever else it is, it wasn’t designed to “stir up controversy,” though obviously it did. I put this under the agreements section because in hindsight (on this issue, at least), I understand why this might look deceptive or “rage baiting.” I get that. I wouldn’t personally put tally marks on (at least) some topics to avoid this confusion in the future. Live and learn.
Disagreements:
One can hypothesize that a discussion-centered booth somehow stirs up the racists, but there’s no evidence to think so. As I told Nadia, if indeed someone thought slavery was not evil, we can argue and explain to them why in fact it is wicked in the sight of God.
Near the end she says “real suffering is reduced to a rhetorical exercise…” This is, I have to say, just silly. No one was reducing suffering to anything. Having an epistemological exercise is not equivalent to reducing the topic to it. To repeat what should be obvious, talking about the slave trade is not the same thing as condoning it.
Clarifications:
The backside of the board said “Where does morality come from?” That was a part of the same project. I understand that there may be some that are distressed by the mere fact of talking about WHY slavery WAS a moral evil. But being distressed is quite different than being harmed.
Yes, it is in fact correct to say that I do not believe in separate “races.” I believe God has made all mankind as one race, the race of Adam and Eve, and therefore we are of one humanity. I’m unclear what is controversial about this, save that in our modern climate the emphasis is on how different and separate we should be (based on skin color, ethnic background, etc.). Ivy league schools even create segregated graduation ceremonies in some cases. I think that’s racist, because I don’t believe we should judge one another on the color of our skin.
A Summary Synthesis
So, why put the statement up that says “Slavery was a moral evil,” and “Where does morality come from?” What does this have to do with Jesus? As a Christian, I believe that everything has to do with Jesus. He is Lord of all, and discussing slavery without reference to Him only leads to hopelessness and despair.
In our postmodern, relativistic culture, most people don’t actually have a good answer to either explain evil nor a solution to it. The exercise at the booth is to help us consider the ground of our moral reasoning, rather than assume it. With a topic like the slave trade, it is helpful to consider why it was evil. For me, as a Christian, it is because all humans are made in the image of God. But if you don’t start with that presupposition, then you just may side with the atheistic character Ivan Karamazov in Dostoevsky’s novel The Brothers Karamazov, who says, “Without God, all things are permissible.”
I’ve met with many atheistic students over the years, and many of them are forced to admit that indeed, there is no basis for morality at all, if there is no God. There is no such thing as wrong, for there is no such thing as ultimate, objective standard by which we could measure such things. And if there is no right, then there is no evil…including the “evil” of the slave trade. In other words, without God, and a basis then for objective morality, the slave trade was not evil.
But since God is God, and his Word is true, we have a basis to declare the slave trade as evil. And with any evil, Jesus can forgive sinners, whether they be racists, abortionists, self-righteous religious zealots, or anyone. Jesus came not for the healthy, but for the sick. He comes not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Whatever the topic, whatever the sin, we want to talk about it, and show how Jesus is the answer. Some topics may be more distressing than others. Most people don’t care about whether Coke is better than Pepsi, because it’s not important. But the slave trade was/is important, and it matters that we aren’t afraid to speak the truth and listen to one another. We should encourage one another in this way, especially at an institution of higher education.
Nancy Salmon • Apr 10, 2025 at 6:20 pm
Thank you, Luke. I was composing a response as I read the article. You said it better and more thoroughly than I could have. Happy to support your ministry!
Jesus Christ • Apr 10, 2025 at 6:51 pm
This does not make you look any better, my friend.
Ophelia • Apr 10, 2025 at 6:52 pm
Being Christian is fine, but to suggest that human morality is based entirely on your Christian god is completely ignorant. You say that if someone approached the conversation from the perspective that the Transatlantic Slave Trade was somehow morally justifiable, you would “argue and explain to them why in fact it is wicked in the sight of God.” However, the problem isn’t how you would respond to this situation, but the fact that you invited this situation to occur in the first place. By posing the question, “is slavery morally evil?” you are inherently suggesting that one could argue that it isn’t. This tells me that you did in fact intend for this to be a discussion about WHETHER or not slavery is a moral wrong, not, as you claim, WHY it was morally wrong. Now, let’s for a minute pretend that it truly was your intention to ask why slavery was wrong. Even in this scenario, you are being completely ignorant to the suffering of the Africans and black Americans who genuinely lived and died under these conditions. As Nadia stated, the Transatlantic Slave Trade was, AT ITS CORE, the kidnapping and torture of human beings for the purpose of exploitative forced labor, which continued as the foundation of the U.S. for hundreds of years. Therefore, asking why slavery is morally evil is akin to asking why kidnapping, torture, and the systemic oppression of an entire group of people is morally evil. If your point was to say something along the lines of “its only morally wrong because God says it’s morally wrong,” then you ARE in fact reducing real suffering. You are using thousands of people’s real lives and experiences to make a point about your god’s view on morality, and how everyone’s view on morality stems from your god’s view on morality. Let me rephrase that: you are using thousands of people’s real lives and experiences…to make a point. If that isn’t reducing suffering, I don’t know what is. To address your claim that there are no separate races, I’m going to try to give you grace, assuming that, as Nadia said, you are likely from a small town that lacks ethnic diversity. But please consider this: pretending that race and racial differences don’t exist is extremely harmful to people without white privilege. As a white man from a town primarily populated by white people, I’m guessing you haven’t seen or experienced much discrimination, prejudice, or micro-aggressions, or at least you haven’t been able to recognize them as such. So let me explain this to you. In a country where people of color have statistically higher unemployment rates, are more likely to be incarcerated, have lower median household income, are less likely to gain higher education, (and many, many more examples of systemic racism), to say race is nonexistent actually harms these individuals. Acknowledging race allows us to identify what groups are disproportionately affected by discrimination caused by systemic racism, and therefore, put legislation in place to support these groups. You also have a significant contradiction in your argument. You say that you “ do in fact believe racism is a real, present sin,” so you acknowledge that racism exists. But remember, racism is the discrimination of the basis of…thats right! Race! You can’t say that racism exists if you don’t also acknowledge that race, that thing racism is based on, also exists. Anyway, all that is to say that maybe you should lay off the boards for a while, at least while you learn to consider multiple perspectives and the potential harm your “discussions” can cause.
Luke • Apr 14, 2025 at 4:46 pm
There’s no confusion about race/racism. People can treat one-another badly based on perceived race, real or imagined. I think that “race” is a socially constructed category, but that doesn’t mean that everyone else does. Hence, racism.
Ryan Davis • Apr 14, 2025 at 12:54 pm
Luke, you are showing a lot of ignorance, cruelty and most especially hypocrisy.
There is a chance you didn’t intend to do so, but…
what you did is like telling a girl whose being raped that rape and sexual molestation isn’t morally evil unless it was written in the 10 commandments in your version of the bible.
These three and many more well documented attrocities happened during slave trade:
– Doing deforming harm to others is evil, even babies who have no idea of God know that.
– Rape is evil
– Kidnapping is evil.
None of these were written explicitively in the 10 commandments, yet we all know that they are wrong.
Yet you still think you have to wait for your perception of God to tell you its bad and should have 3 tallies supporting the idea.
As a christian, it is disappointing to see you go to very despicable lows to share a violent, hypocritical and unchristian ideology.
I believe you can change, and your Equip group can change.
I pray to God that you beleive so too.
From a concerned christian to another
A fellow christian jackrabbit.